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Paul Kelly
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Hello everyone
As we discussed a few weeks ago I've proposed some modifications to the document describing the PSC. In fact I tried to edit it and then realised that really, I feel the existing one is totally wrong for us and describes a completely different organisation from GRASS. So I decided it was easier just to re-write it from scratch. Hope that doesn't offend anybody who made edits to the other version. Please let me know what you think. Here's the main ideas I've tried to incorporate in this: - The PSC as a body doesn't have a role in technical decisions about what goes into the codebase. (Of course individual members exercise that influence through their roles as developers, but not through their PSC roles). This still goes through the developers mailing list. The way the PSC can control the codebase in satisfaction of what OSGeo requires, is to enforce the submitting guidelines and have ultimate control over who has CVS write access. I used Frank's words from an e-mail to this list: developers who've been granted CVS write access may make changes "as they see fit". I think this is a good way of describing our current set-up, and we have to realise that we trust people who have CVS write access to discuss thoroughly any major or controversial changes they intend to make. - The PSC shares the workload of project management functions (as we've been discussing recently in another thread). This was barely mentioned at all in the original RFC and I felt it was important to include it, as that is an area we need to put plenty of work into. - Consensus on decisions is reached through discussion of proposals, anybody can call a vote if felt necessary, certain issues must be voted on. I think "consensus" can easily be defined as everybody coming round to a similar viewpoint, no disagreements - we shouldn't have to go through the whole voting process with every proposal but if anybody wants to call a vote, that is no problem at all. Read what I wrote below - I think it explains it better. I think we also need to define what the "GRASS project" is exactly. Really looking forward to having some feedback on this. There's probably things that have totally slipped my mind, also it may need fleshed out in places, but I feel it describes the GRASS organisation much better than the original RFC and hope it is a good basis to move forward towards agreement on the PSC's role. Paul ======================================================= RFC 1: Project Steering Committee Guidelines Author: GRASS Founding PSC Status: Proposed A GRASS Project Steering Committee (PSC) is proposed to formalize control over the GRASS codebase and to facilitate GRASS project management issues. It is desired to keep the administrational overhead as low as possible. This document describes how the GRASS Project Steering Committee determines membership and makes decisions on GRASS project issues. "The GRASS Project" is defined as xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1.0 Terms of Reference ====================== The two primary functions of the PSC are: 1) To enforce control over the GRASS codebase. This can be summarised as: a) Enforce mechanisms to ensure quality control. b) Ensure compliance with all required legal measures. 2) Project Management and responsibility for the "public face" of GRASS. The PSC is expected to be able to speak and act on behalf of the GRASS project. 1.1 Codebase Control ==================== 1.1.1 Quality Control Mechanisms -------------------------------- The quality control mechanisms, which are the responsibility of the PSC, currently include: * Maintaining submitter guidelines and making all developers aware of them. * Granting write access to the source code repository for new developers. * Enforcing the submitter guidelines, with the ultimate sanction against non-compliance being removal of write access to the source code repository. In general, once write access has been granted, developers are allowed to make changes to the codebase as they see fit. For controversial or complicated changes consensus must be obtained on the developers' mailing list as far as reasonably practicable. It is recognised that the ultimate arbitration on technical issues always lies with consensus on the developers' mailing list. Specifically, it is not the role of the PSC to impose technical solutions. Its role is limited to enforcing the quality control mechanisms outlined above. 1.1.2 Compliance with Legal Measures ------------------------------------ Control over the codebase also extends to ensuring that it complies with all relevant legal requirements. This includes copyright and licensing amongst other issues. The PSC is resonsible for developing rules and procedures to cover this. These are outlined in a separate document: "RFC 2: Legal aspects of code contributions". This document will be updated and revised by the PSC as required. 1.2 Project Management ====================== The PSC will share responsibility and make decisions over issues related to the management of the overall direction of the GRASS project and external visibility, etc. These include, but are not limited to: * Release Cycles * Project infrastructure * Website Maintenance * Promotion and Public Relations * Other issues as they become relevant It is the responsibility of the PSC to ensure that issues critical to the future of the GRASS project are adequately attended to. This may involve delegation to interested helpers. 2.0 Operation of the PSC ======================== A dedicated mailing list exists for the purpose of PSC discussions. When a decision is required of the PSC, it will be presented by any member to the mailing list in the form of a proposal. A decision will then be achieved by discussion of the proposal on the mailing list until a consensus is reached. Voting on issues is also permissable and may be used as a means to reach a consensus or, only in case of extreme cases of disagreement, to force a decision. Any member may call a vote on any proposal. That member is then responsible for collating votes and presenting the result to the PSC. The voting procedure is outlined in a separate document: XXXXXXX (Copy all the +1/0- stuff in there). The Chair is the ultimate adjudicator in case of deadlock or irretrievable break down of decision-making, or in case of disputes over voting. The following issue(s) *must* have a vote called before a decision is reached: * Granting source code repository write access for new developers * Selection of a committee Chair 3.0 Composition of the Committee ================================ Michael Barton, Dylan Beaudette, Hamish Bowman, Massimiliano Cannata, Brad Douglas, Paul Kelly, Helena Mitasova, Scott Mitchell, Markus Neteler, and Maciej Sieczka are declared to be the founding Project Steering Committee. Addition and removal of members from the committee, as well as selection of a Chair is handled as a proposal to the committee as described above. The Chair is responsible for keeping track of the membership of the PSC. |
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Frank Warmerdam
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On 12/15/06, Paul Kelly <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello everyone > As we discussed a few weeks ago I've proposed some modifications to the > document describing the PSC. In fact I tried to edit it and then realised > that really, I feel the existing one is totally wrong for us and describes > a completely different organisation from GRASS. So I decided it was easier > just to re-write it from scratch. Hope that doesn't offend anybody who > made edits to the other version. Please let me know what you think. Here's > the main ideas I've tried to incorporate in this: Paul, Congratulations on taking this bull by the horns! While a bit distinct from how some of the other projects are run, I think the described approach would be just fine from an OSGeo point of view. Best regards, -- ---------------------------------------+-------------------------------------- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [hidden email] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Programmer for Rent |
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Scott Mitchell-3
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by Paul Kelly
On 15 Dec 2006, at 9:01, Paul Kelly wrote:
> Hello everyone > As we discussed a few weeks ago I've proposed some modifications to > the document describing the PSC. In fact I tried to edit it and > then realised that really, I feel the existing one is totally wrong > for us and describes a completely different organisation from > GRASS. So I decided it was easier just to re-write it from scratch. > Hope that doesn't offend anybody who made edits to the other > version. Please let me know what you think Looks great to me overall, I think you've captured the spirit of past discussions well. I do wonder about the possibility of stalemate, though: > In general, once write access has been granted, developers are > allowed to make changes to the codebase as they see fit. For > controversial or complicated changes consensus must be obtained on > the developers' mailing list as far as reasonably practicable. It > is recognised that the ultimate arbitration on technical issues > always lies with consensus on the developers' mailing list. > Specifically, it is not the role of the PSC to impose technical > solutions. Its role is limited to enforcing the quality control > mechanisms outlined above. What about the extremely rare, hopefully never happens, case of no consensus developing on the main list? Alternatively, can we give some guidance on what is meant by consensus? I had a vague inkling that one role for a steering committee could be to decide what to do if two (or more?) distinct options ever come up and the list can't reach consensus. The wording as it stands above heads part way down that path with "consensus must be obtained on the developer's mailing list as far as reasonably practicable", but we're missing what should happen if "reasonably practicable" doesn't happen. Is there a way we can put in a mechanism without prejudging outcome/tying our hands to a particular approach? How about: ==== It is recognised that the ultimate arbitration on technical issues should always lie with consensus on the developers' mailing list. Specifically, it is not the role of the PSC to impose technical solutions. Its role is limited to enforcing the quality control mechanisms outlined above. In general, once write access has been granted, developers are allowed to make changes to the codebase as they see fit. For controversial or complicated changes consensus must be obtained on the developers' mailing list as far as reasonably practicable. If consensus fails to emerge naturally, issues can be referred to the PSC for more structured efforts to build consensus. As a last resort, if lack of consensus continues, the developer community can request the PSC to choose options best preserving the quality of the GRASS project. ==== OK, I'm still not completely happy with that, but maybe it will stimulate suggestions? Or, do people think I worry needlessly about the stalemate scenario? Scott |
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