[Product-Developers] Status of PloneJobBoard

[Ricardo Alves-2]

Hi!

For a project I'm currently working on, I need a job board solution.
Years ago, I implemented a JobMarket product, similar to PloneJobBoard,
but with a more strict location policy, i.e. offers/postings need to be
inside the board and applications/responses inside the offers. It also
supports CVs associated to users and used to fill the application form.
Now I would like to use something actively developed and maintained by
the community.

I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are no
developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on this
product? What future developments should it have?

I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that would
make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue the
development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...


Any thoughts,


Ricardo

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[Martin Aspeli-2]

Ricardo Alves-2 wrote:

Hi!

For a project I'm currently working on, I need a job board solution.
Years ago, I implemented a JobMarket product, similar to PloneJobBoard,
but with a more strict location policy, i.e. offers/postings need to be
inside the board and applications/responses inside the offers. It also
supports CVs associated to users and used to fill the application form.
Now I would like to use something actively developed and maintained by
the community.

I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are no
developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on this
product? What future developments should it have?

I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that would
make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue the
development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...

PloneJobBoard worked last time I worked on it, and is used in a few places, but it's a bit long in the tooth. If I were to start again, I wouldn't use Archetypes for job responses - I'd probably use formlib forms and lightweight data storage.

I don't know of anyone working on it, though it is brought up from time to time, so there probably is an interest in this type of product.

Martin

[Michael Hierweck]

Hi Martin,

Martin Aspeli wrote:
>
> PloneJobBoard worked last time I worked on it, and is used in a few places,
> but it's a bit long in the tooth. If I were to start again, I wouldn't use
> Archetypes for job responses - I'd probably use formlib forms and
> lightweight data storage.

what kind of "lightweight" storage would use you?

Michael

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[Martin Aspeli-2]

Michael Hierweck wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> PloneJobBoard worked last time I worked on it, and is used in a few places,
>> but it's a bit long in the tooth. If I were to start again, I wouldn't use
>> Archetypes for job responses - I'd probably use formlib forms and
>> lightweight data storage.
>
> what kind of "lightweight" storage would use you?

Probably just persistent objects maintained in a BTree, with custom
formlib/z3c.form forms to create new postings and custom views to render
responses in sensible ways.

Or perhaps plone.app.content-style content, if you really want editable
content objects.

Martin

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[Alexander Limi]

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves  
<rsa@...> wrote:

> I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are no  
> developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on this  
> product? What future developments should it have?
>
> I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that would  
> make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue the  
> development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...

Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really want to add a job  
market to plone.net, we just haven't had any volunteers to champion it yet.

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[Dylan Jay-3]

Alexander Limi wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
> <rsa@...> wrote:
>
>> I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are no
>> developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on this
>> product? What future developments should it have?
>>
>> I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that
>> would make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue
>> the development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>
> Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really want to add a job
> market to plone.net, we just haven't had any volunteers to champion it yet.

I really need this too. Why not just a new mailing list for now?

plone-jobs


Dylan.



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[Ricardo Alves-2]

Dylan Jay wrote:

> Alexander Limi wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves <rsa@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are
>>> no developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on
>>> this product? What future developments should it have?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that
>>> would make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue
>>> the development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>>
>> Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really want to add a
>> job market to plone.net, we just haven't had any volunteers to
>> champion it yet.
>

I started the development of a new product (called it
collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will be as
soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it at the end of
this week though.

> I really need this too.

The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used in
different contexts.
Can you give me some insight about the uses case you want to address?

> Why not just a new mailing list for now?
>
> plone-jobs


-1

I think we have too many lists :)



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[Dylan Jay-3]

Ricardo Alves wrote:

> Dylan Jay wrote:
>> Alexander Limi wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
>>> <rsa@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are
>>>> no developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on
>>>> this product? What future developments should it have?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that
>>>> would make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue
>>>> the development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>>>
>>> Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really want to add a
>>> job market to plone.net, we just haven't had any volunteers to
>>> champion it yet.
>>
>
> I started the development of a new product (called it
> collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will be as
> soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it at the end of
> this week though.
>
>> I really need this too.
>
> The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used in
> different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the uses case you
> want to address?

I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well
defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then contacting
them directly, or doing it elance style and putting project descriptions
and asking for quotes.


>> Why not just a new mailing list for now?
>>
>> plone-jobs
>
>
> -1
>
> I think we have too many lists :)

people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that needs
done post. Don't see what harm it does.





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[David Bain-5]

Personally, I think that more Plone providers should join places like elance, odesk.com etc...

Then there could be a link from the Plone.net site to a filtered search on "plone providers".

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Dylan Jay <gmane@...> wrote:

Ricardo Alves wrote:

Dylan Jay wrote:

Alexander Limi wrote:

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves <rsa@...> wrote:

I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and noticed there are no developments for the last two years. Is there anyone working on this product? What future developments should it have?

I'm not sure if I start a new project (collective.jobmarket) that would make more use of the component architecture, or if I continue the development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...

Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really want to add a job market to plone.net, we just haven't had any volunteers to champion it yet.

I started the development of a new product (called it collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will be as soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it at the end of this week though.

I really need this too.

The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used in different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the uses case you want to address?

I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then contacting them directly, or doing it elance style and putting project descriptions and asking for quotes.

Why not just a new mailing list for now?

plone-jobs

-1

I think we have too many lists :)

people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that needs done post. Don't see what harm it does.

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[Dylan Jay-3]

David Bain wrote:
> Personally, I think that more Plone providers should join places like
> elance, odesk.com <http://odesk.com> etc...

I like that idea too.

> Then there could be a link from the Plone.net site to a filtered search
> on "plone providers".
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Dylan Jay
> <gmane@...
> <mailto:gmane@...>> wrote:
>
>     Ricardo Alves wrote:
>
>         Dylan Jay wrote:
>
>             Alexander Limi wrote:
>
>                 On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
>                 <rsa@...
>                 <mailto:rsa@...>> wrote:
>
>                     I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and
>                     noticed there are no developments for the last two
>                     years. Is there anyone working on this product? What
>                     future developments should it have?
>
>                     I'm not sure if I start a new project
>                     (collective.jobmarket) that would make more use of
>                     the component architecture, or if I continue the
>                     development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>
>
>                 Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really
>                 want to add a job market to plone.net
>                 <http://plone.net>, we just haven't had any volunteers
>                 to champion it yet.
>
>
>
>         I started the development of a new product (called it
>         collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will
>         be as soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it
>         at the end of this week though.
>
>             I really need this too.
>
>
>         The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used
>         in different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the
>         uses case you want to address?
>
>
>     I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well
>     defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
>     I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then
>     contacting them directly, or doing it elance style and putting
>     project descriptions and asking for quotes.
>
>
>
>             Why not just a new mailing list for now?
>
>             plone-jobs
>
>
>
>         -1
>
>         I think we have too many lists :)
>
>
>     people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that
>     needs done post. Don't see what harm it does.
>
>
>
>
>
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[David Bain-5]

I'm partial to odesk, but I think this would save the trouble of having people divert efforts to adding yet another feature to plone.net. The hardest part would be encouraging and coordinating the mass sign up process to whatever service is agreed upon.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dylan Jay <gmane@...> wrote:

David Bain wrote:

Personally, I think that more Plone providers should join places like elance, odesk.com <http://odesk.com> etc...

I like that idea too.

Then there could be a link from the Plone.net site to a filtered search on "plone providers".

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Dylan Jay <gmane@... <mailto:gmane@...>> wrote:

   Ricardo Alves wrote:

       Dylan Jay wrote:

           Alexander Limi wrote:

               On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
               <rsa@...

               <mailto:rsa@...>> wrote:

                   I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and
                   noticed there are no developments for the last two
                   years. Is there anyone working on this product? What
                   future developments should it have?

                   I'm not sure if I start a new project
                   (collective.jobmarket) that would make more use of
                   the component architecture, or if I continue the
                   development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...


               Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really
               want to add a job market to plone.net

               <http://plone.net>, we just haven't had any volunteers

               to champion it yet.



       I started the development of a new product (called it
       collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will
       be as soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it
       at the end of this week though.

           I really need this too.


       The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used
       in different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the
       uses case you want to address?


   I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well
   defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
   I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then
   contacting them directly, or doing it elance style and putting
   project descriptions and asking for quotes.



           Why not just a new mailing list for now?

           plone-jobs



       -1

       I think we have too many lists :)


   people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that
   needs done post. Don't see what harm it does.






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[Stacey Fitzgerald (oDesk)]

Hi there,

Thanks for thinking of oDesk. As you may know, oDesk consists of both a job marketplace and a set of management tools to facilitate trustworthy, quality remote work. oDesk also handles time-logging and billing, so as a provider, your payment is guaranteed. We're very interested in supporting Plone developers, and your feedback is crucial.

We can set up a page devoted to Plone with information on hiring trends, available jobs/providers, and resources. An example of such a page can be seen here. Please let me know what you think of this idea, and send me any crucial Plone resources so we can make the page as useful as possible. I'll keep an eye on this thread, or you can email me at [e-mail].

Stacey Fitzgerald
oDesk

David Bain-5 wrote:

I'm partial to odesk, but I think this would save the trouble of having
people divert efforts to adding yet another feature to plone.net. The
hardest part would be encouraging and coordinating the mass sign up process
to whatever service is agreed upon.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dylan Jay <[e-mail]> wrote:

> David Bain wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think that more Plone providers should join places like
>> elance, odesk.com <http://odesk.com> etc...
>>
>
> I like that idea too.
>
>  Then there could be a link from the Plone.net site to a filtered search on
>> "plone providers".
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Dylan Jay <[e-mail] <mailto:
>> [e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>    Ricardo Alves wrote:
>>
>>        Dylan Jay wrote:
>>
>>            Alexander Limi wrote:
>>
>>                On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
>>                <[e-mail]
>>                <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>                    I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and
>>                    noticed there are no developments for the last two
>>                    years. Is there anyone working on this product? What
>>                    future developments should it have?
>>
>>                    I'm not sure if I start a new project
>>                    (collective.jobmarket) that would make more use of
>>                    the component architecture, or if I continue the
>>                    development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>>
>>
>>                Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really
>>                want to add a job market to plone.net
>>                <http://plone.net>, we just haven't had any volunteers
>>                to champion it yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>        I started the development of a new product (called it
>>        collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will
>>        be as soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it
>>        at the end of this week though.
>>
>>            I really need this too.
>>
>>
>>        The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used
>>        in different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the
>>        uses case you want to address?
>>
>>
>>    I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well
>>    defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
>>    I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then
>>    contacting them directly, or doing it elance style and putting
>>    project descriptions and asking for quotes.
>>
>>
>>
>>            Why not just a new mailing list for now?
>>
>>            plone-jobs
>>
>>
>>
>>        -1
>>
>>        I think we have too many lists :)
>>
>>
>>    people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that
>>    needs done post. Don't see what harm it does.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[David Bain-5]

Stacey,
So you know this is spooky right? :) You found this list because we mentioned oDesk?

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Stacey Fitzgerald (oDesk) <sfitzgerald@...> wrote:

Hi there,

Thanks for thinking of oDesk. As you may know, oDesk consists of both a job
marketplace and a set of management tools to facilitate trustworthy, quality
remote work. oDesk also handles time-logging and billing, so as a provider,
your payment is guaranteed. We're very interested in supporting Plone
developers, and your feedback is crucial.

We can set up a page devoted to Plone with information on hiring trends,
available jobs/providers, and resources. An example of such a page can be
seen  http://www.odesk.com/trends/javascript here . Please let me know what
you think of this idea, and send me any crucial Plone resources so we can
make the page as useful as possible. I'll keep an eye on this thread, or you
can email me at sfitzgerald@....

Stacey Fitzgerald
oDesk

David Bain-5 wrote:
>
> I'm partial to odesk, but I think this would save the trouble of having
> people divert efforts to adding yet another feature to plone.net. The
> hardest part would be encouraging and coordinating the mass sign up
> process
> to whatever service is agreed upon.
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dylan Jay <gmane@...> wrote:
>
>> David Bain wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I think that more Plone providers should join places like
>>> elance, odesk.com <http://odesk.com> etc...
>>>
>>
>> I like that idea too.
>>
>>  Then there could be a link from the Plone.net site to a filtered search
>> on
>>> "plone providers".
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Dylan Jay <gmane@... <mailto:
>>> gmane@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Ricardo Alves wrote:
>>>
>>>        Dylan Jay wrote:
>>>
>>>            Alexander Limi wrote:
>>>
>>>                On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:17:41 -0700, Ricardo Alves
>>>                <rsa@...
>>>                <mailto:rsa@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                    I looked at PloneJobBoard in the collective, and
>>>                    noticed there are no developments for the last two
>>>                    years. Is there anyone working on this product? What
>>>                    future developments should it have?
>>>
>>>                    I'm not sure if I start a new project
>>>                    (collective.jobmarket) that would make more use of
>>>                    the component architecture, or if I continue the
>>>                    development of PloneJobBoard for Plone3...
>>>
>>>
>>>                Whatever you end up doing, keep us posted! We really
>>>                want to add a job market to plone.net
>>>                <http://plone.net>, we just haven't had any volunteers
>>>                to champion it yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        I started the development of a new product (called it
>>>        collective.jobmarket but it isn't in the collective yet - will
>>>        be as soon as the code is more stable). I should get back to it
>>>        at the end of this week though.
>>>
>>>            I really need this too.
>>>
>>>
>>>        The idea is to make it flexible enough so it can be easily used
>>>        in different contexts. Can you give me some insight about the
>>>        uses case you want to address?
>>>
>>>
>>>    I'm looking for freelancers or companies that want to do small well
>>>    defined chunks of work, propably on the fixed price basis at first.
>>>    I'm not sure if it would work best asking for names and then
>>>    contacting them directly, or doing it elance style and putting
>>>    project descriptions and asking for quotes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>            Why not just a new mailing list for now?
>>>
>>>            plone-jobs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        -1
>>>
>>>        I think we have too many lists :)
>>>
>>>
>>>    people who need more work subscribe. people that have work that
>>>    needs done post. Don't see what harm it does.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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